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# 14:00, 24th October 2008
Please use this thread to discuss INTERN applications to Morgan Stanley. We would appreciate if you could follow the guidelines outlined here: http://nicube.com/board/topic/1/59099/.
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# 9:47, 4th November 2008
I just attended the fast track process for the Sales & Trading Division at MS and was successful. If anyone is interested about details of how MS have structured their assessment centre I will be glad to help.
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# 10:16, 4th November 2008
How did you manage to get through the fast track process?
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# 10:31, 4th November 2008

pjbalchev wrote:

I just attended the fast track process for the Sales & Trading Division at MS and was successful. If anyone is interested about details of how MS have structured their assessment centre I will be glad to help.


Congratulations.

A relatively random question, however did anyone from University College London attend?
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# 10:37, 4th November 2008
Getting through it was not very easy. We had a 6 hour-long assessment centre with three interviews, one group project and one individual presentation + the most difficult SHL test I have ever done (advanced management test, it was called).

As far as I can remember there were two people I knew from UCL.
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# 10:42, 4th November 2008
Thanks
Apologies I meant how can one choose the fast track procedure? Did u have a contact there or an exploding summer offer from a competing bank?
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# 10:42, 4th November 2008
I'm assuming the SHL test was paper based?

I've got a similar AC (only one interview) at another bank of Wednesday - and from what I've heard it's far harder and a lot more time pressured.
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# 13:31, 4th November 2008
Ah I see. Well, I attended the spring program with MS and they offered me a fast track process for S&T. As far as I know that is the only way to actually get on a fast track, unless you are well connected, of course.

As for the test, yes it is far harder than any test I have seen or done (and I have had my share of tests). Number of graphs is not one but 3, and questions are a lot longer and. However, do bear in mind that everyone will be doing the same thing so everyone will find it difficult.
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# 19:05, 4th November 2008
Well, we started with the numerical test, then moved on to a group exercise, which consisted of our group (8 people) working through 8 different investment projects and deciding in which one to invest, according to a predefined set of instructions. The whole thing lasts for about 40 minutes, with 10 to research your project and 30 to discuss the projects.

After that we had a individual presentation. We were given the materials for the presentation and had 20 minutes to prepare a 10 minute presentation.

Then, we had 3 interviews with very senior people. Mine were with 3 MDs. Interview need not be technical, but if you are reading a degree such as finance or economics you might be asked technical questions. I am quite involved in a trading and investment club, have had other internships, and am reading Finance and Economics so I got the most technical questions from the entire group.

As far as I am aware recruiters have a break now and will start looking at summer applicants in about 2 - 3 weeks and the process will consist of 2 rounds, with one being the Assessment Centre.

hope this helps...
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# 19:18, 4th November 2008
Great post, can I ask you what your other internships are?
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# 11:09, 5th November 2008
I did two other internships. One in the S&T department of an investment intermediary in Bulgaria and one with MS - the Spring Insight Internship.
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# 11:25, 5th November 2008
Great, you appear to be very well qualified and have strong knowledge about this field
In times like these top banks will prefer high calibre candidates like yourself, instead of the thousands of undergrads in classical studies/history from oxbridge without internships...
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# 19:11, 6th November 2008
Hi, well done on your offer. Would you happen to know/guess how many S&T and IBD intern places they may have? thanks.
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S&T Internship Seeker

# 10:37, 11th November 2008
Hi, I was wondering if anyone applied for Morgan Stanley's internship program in Asia Pacific? Got any replies?
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# 20:19, 12th November 2008

S&T Internship Seeker wrote:

Hi, I was wondering if anyone applied for Morgan Stanley's internship program in Asia Pacific? Got any replies?


What did you apply for / What is your background?
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# 20:34, 12th November 2008

pjbalchev wrote:

Well, we started with the numerical test, then moved on to a group exercise, which consisted of our group (8 people) working through 8 different investment projects and deciding in which one to invest, according to a predefined set of instructions. The whole thing lasts for about 40 minutes, with 10 to research your project and 30 to discuss the projects.

After that we had a individual presentation. We were given the materials for the presentation and had 20 minutes to prepare a 10 minute presentation.

Then, we had 3 interviews with very senior people. Mine were with 3 MDs. Interview need not be technical, but if you are reading a degree such as finance or economics you might be asked technical questions. I am quite involved in a trading and investment club, have had other internships, and am reading Finance and Economics so I got the most technical questions from the entire group.

As far as I am aware recruiters have a break now and will start looking at summer applicants in about 2 - 3 weeks and the process will consist of 2 rounds, with one being the Assessment Centre.

hope this helps...


very well done - cool, useful post!
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# 22:50, 13th November 2008
do they have an online numerical test, or is it just the paper one at the AC?
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# 23:42, 14th November 2008
Rejected from morgan stanley today for sales & trading, the rejections are starting to mount up now! need to hear back from an AC with an offer soon!!
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# 23:47, 14th November 2008
Obtaining an internship is much tougher this year. Plenty of summer interns this year unable to get grad jobs in this economy are applying again for internships and doing postgrad degrees.
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# 0:27, 15th November 2008
I got a first round interview with Morgan Stanley coming up on Tuesday for IBD, could anyone offer any advice on the sort of things I should be expecting? I hear there's apparently three rounds of interviews in a typical recruiting process? Sounds pretty competitive, if anyone could shed light on what I should be expecting, I'd very much appreciate it!

- Jeff
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# 0:28, 15th November 2008

oblivious0r wrote:

Obtaining an internship is much tougher this year. Plenty of summer interns this year unable to get grad jobs in this economy are applying again for internships and doing postgrad degrees.


many of them are also re-think their career in banking...we will probably see a run towards consulting...
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# 0:48, 15th November 2008

J2K wrote:

I got a first round interview with Morgan Stanley coming up on Tuesday for IBD, could anyone offer any advice on the sort of things I should be expecting? I hear there's apparently three rounds of interviews in a typical recruiting process? Sounds pretty competitive, if anyone could shed light on what I should be expecting, I'd very much appreciate it!

- Jeff


when did you apply???
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# 5:48, 15th November 2008

J2K wrote:

I got a first round interview with Morgan Stanley coming up on Tuesday for IBD, could anyone offer any advice on the sort of things I should be expecting? I hear there's apparently three rounds of interviews in a typical recruiting process? Sounds pretty competitive, if anyone could shed light on what I should be expecting, I'd very much appreciate it!

- Jeff


Hey, is this by fast track, or usual application process? Didnt know MS had started looking through internship applications already :)
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S&T Internship Seeker

# 7:24, 15th November 2008
Jeff, thought u have an offer from Barclays IBD/DCM already?
Why waste time going for more interviews? And do give others a chance =)


Anyway, which office of Morgan Stanley did you apply for?
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# 10:08, 15th November 2008
Obviously he is using the Barcap offer to get the fast track procedure and change it for MS IBD offer... smart move! MS is much better and will open any door you want..
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# 10:08, 15th November 2008
Janja, consultancy is a shitty career.. only the truely motivated ones will stayed focussed on banking
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# 10:18, 15th November 2008 1.00
Pjbalchev: would u be able to describe the detailed content of the case study for the group discussion and detailed info about the presentation material and the key points to focus on, also the detailed interview questions, that would be very helpful
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# 13:33, 15th November 2008

Doloris Hiatchi wrote:

Obviously he is using the Barcap offer to get the fast track procedure and change it for MS IBD offer... smart move! MS is much better and will open any door you want..


How do u get short listed if u have an offer from another bank? You have to go through the whole process anyway, and could mention that u need a quick answer due to another offer, but that does not mean u could be short listed
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# 13:52, 15th November 2008
My mate who got a DB offer in the past told GS this and he got interviews in 2 days time ....e.g. DB offer on Tuesday, interview with GS on Friday and got a GS offer...F/O IBD

Actually its quite bad if you think about it.. all top 15 banks are great firms with great people but nowadays people care so much about prestige and exit options .. and those exit options such as BX, KKR tend to pick people from MS, GS IBD or good levfin teams at top 5 BB banks only

My advice if yo uwant to play this game, play it by its rules..Having MS/GS on your CV opens more doors
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# 19:56, 15th November 2008
No fast tracking re: MS interviews - just the plain recruiting process, i also have been given a first round at MS on tuesday - see you there jeff; despite not having an offer (hopefully yet) from any other bank.

MS are holding their first set of first rounds on Monday and Tuesday
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